Has Society Let our Children Down?
68Lauren my Neice at 24 weeks
Last Interview With Ted Bundy
Before I get into this hub, I wish to acknowledge Paraglider who, unknowingly, got me to thinking along the lines I think about certain things that we say and do and how they affect those who read our words. His article was instrumental to me writing this hub.
What does Ted Bundy have to do with society and our children? At one time Ted was a normal teen aged boy. He was just like many we see today and as all teens are, he was curious. He was raised in a loving home with parents who loved each other.
The interview took place approximately seventeen (17) hours before Ted Bundy was executed by electrocution. James Dobson was granted the interview.
While reading the interview I realized that there are many things that are out there that our children are able to get their hands on that they shouldn't be able to get hold of. Many will cry about freedom of speech and such things, but ultimately, it is society that has let our children down.
I am not sure that I can get my point across as I would like to, but I am going to attempt it. If you start reading this, please read it all the way to the end.
In the last interview, Bundy admitted guilt and took full responsibility for his actions. He felt that he owed it to society to warn of some of the things that our children can get their hands on.
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One thing Bundy mentioned that affected him very deeply was in grocery stores at the age of 12 or 13 he found soft-core pornography and was fascinated by it, (as many boy or girls are at that age). Boys also tend to explore the neighborhood where they live. It is easy to find a magazine that had been throw out by someone and many times the magazines would be hardcore pornography including detective magazines. Many times he would find really hardcore stuff which depicts violence and sexual violence.
Maybe you believe this has nothing at all to do with what Bundy did. After all he was an evil wicked man who preyed on young girls. Bundy not once during the interview tried to dismiss himself as innocent. He was guilty and knew he was guilty. He was merely trying to let everyone know what helped too push him to do what he did.
How many of us want to see our children end up as Ted Bundy did? He went to college and was an intelligent law student. He was an honor student and made good grades, raised in a good home with love and care along with 4 brothers and sisters.
Our own children could end up like this man if we are not careful. The same porn that Bundy looked at while a young teen is so prevalent and easily gotten hold of these days that it is pathetic. Television constantly bombards those who watch it with violence and sexual violence. The Internet is even worse with so much porn and many times the porn is hidden behind an innocent looking link.
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What can we do?
The question is a good one. We can protect our children while at home somewhat. How can we protect them while they are at school? What is the best line of defense against an enemy that wants to destroy you and your children?
The complete and utter destruction of the enemy is what it takes to insure complete safety for our children. This means destroying porn completely. Taking away the right to freedom of speech is what will keep us from doing so, but it needs to be done. Violence on TV and in movies, games, etc. . . also needs to be destroyed completely.
I know I will get a lot of hate comments on this hub, but this is the only way to fix things. We have strayed so far away from God that it seems we cannot get back to Him at all. (2 Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.)
Until we do away with porn and other actions that depict violence and sex, we will see more and more turn to the ways of Ted Bundy. The world will wax worse and worse. Let us begin our fight today against these unclean things that have come into our midst. Unclean spirits are trying to lay claim on our children. Are we going to continue letting them down?
We must do all we can to protect our children. I know many say that porn is helplful in that it keeps rapists from raping, but that isn't so. What it actually does is open a door way for spirits to enter which can control a man. The only way to keep them out is to not open a door. No one really wants unclean spirits to infiltrate their minds and hearts, it just happens when they get hold of the wrong thing.
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It Is Time
Stop kicking against what you know to be right. Accept the fact that we are headed to a place that is worse than what it has ever been. So much violence and drugs all over the world. Our children do not stand a chance.
I would like to state the fact that I do not want my son to end up like Ted Bundy. The day of salvation is now here upon you even as you read this. Turn to God and let Him take care of things for you.
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If we limit what our children see, would that not help them to make better choices as adults?
Porn isnt what caused Bundy to go off like he did, but helped to get him to the point to do it.
I know this isn't what you meant when you talked of getting lubricant but is your daughter's welfare more important to you than your lubricant? What sacrifice is too great for us to make for our children?
Porn isn't the only thing that needs done away with. It seems to be the most prevalent thing at this time.
Why is it so hard to believe that there are evil spirits in the world trying to steal away our children?
SirDent- The subconscious mind is very powerful and what we feed to it over a period makes the person what he/she becomes. As the popular saying goes "first we make our habits then our habits make us" hence the stages "Thinking, Feeling and Willing" are responsible for the behavior of certain people to take to such serious crimes.
In Hindu religious texts there are three classes of Men (or woman). The lowest class is one where he can't even control his ACTIONS and commits murder/rape. Then the mediocre category are those people who control their actions but not their INSTINCTS (like a beautiful girl is passing by then he wants to have a glance at her). The highest class of men are those who not only control their actions/instincts but also their THOUGHTS. These exalted men have the ability to only allow positive soul uplifting thoughts to penetrate their minds. Unlike physical dimension where opposites like negative attracts positive in the spiritual dimension positive attracts only positive. Such class of men are very rare.
Now what can be done when a person has been brought up in good loving environment but still takes to deviant behavior. I think to a certain extent having an open lines of communication between parents and child would help. Also in teenage years monitoring the general internet activity like with whom the kid chats or interacts (not just using some cyber nanny) would also help. Paying attention to the ratings of the movies that kids need to watch. Also looking into who the friends of our kids are and what kind of kids are they (association with positive friendly kids would be helpful). We can do all the planning/precautions taken that we possibly can but at the end of the day it is again their own karma. Nice thoughtful hub.
I AGREE with you on all points and your reply to another comment about people not believing in evil spirits who want to sweep our children away. You are 100% correct. That is the root of all evil - demons. Some people just don't get it. Really sad. Satan uses many many tools to accomplish what he sets out to accomplish and those who don't have Jesus on their side are powerless.
Well said! It may seem harmless at first, but that is how satan works. he is a deceiver, and will use anything to win the children over as soon as possible!
James 1:14-15 says "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conveived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death."
no hate here i agree with you there are so many thing and much easier to get these days kids are turn loose free to do just about anything
CW, I appreciate your comment. Let me put it this way. If there was nothing bad that anyone knew about to do, would anyone do anything bad?
I know you don't mean the way it sounds to me in your comment, but what it seems you are saying is that some are too weak-minded to know the difference between right and wroing. Please clarify this for me if you will.
Thanks for the encouragement The Nana. I appreciate it very much.
Embracing, I appreciate the comment and the scripture also.
Yes that's so true commentonthis. Imagine if there was nothing like that for children to get hold of. If there is nothing evil, then there is nothing wrong with anything anyone does.
SirDent- I am trying to be realistic. Can you honestly prevent the influence of friends, neighbors, movies, music and the TV shows? Sooner or later they are bound to be aware of some or all these. If the parents are too strict then they may totally shut themselves away from us when they are teenagers. Hence given the situation we can only minimize and not avoid the influence completely. We can do the best we can and just hope they turn out to be good responsible adults when they grow up.
There are various inputs that makes an individual to commit something that is basically considered wrong by society. It could be due to family influence, peer/friends influence, repeated exposure over a period of time to certain influences, bad personal experiences and so on. We can't exactly pin point why and how somebody becomes like this in general but on a case to case basis we can try to evaluate. Some people may have very strong desires but their control over themselves could prevent them from committing any unwanted actions and others may not be so strong hence commit those crimes inspite of knowing that it is wrong. I don't know whether I am addressing your query directly but this is my opinion.
Ok CW. I understand what you are saying. What I am trying to say is this. If porn and violence wasn;t a part of daily life, would our children be violent?
I know we won't be able to get rid of porn and violence on TV. It is something that should have been stopped before it started.
Now the question changes to, "What can we do from here on in?"
I don't believe in whole that it is the society that has let the children down but a lot of people who brought children into this world and then decided that they don't want to or can't take the time to teach morals and values.
Yes there are things in this world such as porn and drugs and violence, but that is why we as parents have to really enforce the rights and wrongs that our children see.
It is unfortanate that in this age and time there are so many things that are loosely displayed and glamorized, but if we have taught our kids the values and morals and we have encouraged their growth in this world, then perhaps their judgement made by the base we have given them will make them strong enough to make the right choice.
Sometimes I think that people like Bundy and Dahmer and some of these other sickos use porn and bad childhoods as a reason to cover their sick minds. By saying that porn led them to be this way, or they grew up with alcohol in their family , or any of the other reasons they gave is just a way to gain sympathy for being sick. When in truth they were just evil individuals.
SirDent- If somebody wants to blame the TV, Movies and all for violence then I don't completely agree with that. It could be part of the problem but not the only problem. Violence has existed earlier too(maybe the media news has made it better at reporting it nowadays) and it is not just a recent phenomena after the advent of Music, Movies or TV. Honestly I am not a psychologist to figure out exactly why some people become violent.
We can't be moral policing too as those things the more repressed and taboo they are the more curiosity towards it arises. Just pray and hope that our kids turn out as good responsible adults. Well what we can do I did briefly outline in my first comment besides that I don't know what else we can do (Btw I am not even married hence once I am married and have kids maybe I will be better able to answer this question).
KW, if ytou read the last interview with Bundy, he didn't blame porn on his actions. He took responsibility for what he did. Ill try to fix a link to get the interview linked up here. I tried in the hub but everytime I clicked it, it said page not there.
We can teach our kids values until it runs nout their ears. The fact iss till that sex is glamorized as is violence. Even driving on the freeway sex is shown on blillboards. Unclean spirits just don't care where they go, as long as they have someone to enter.
Why can't we be policing morals? Why can't we teach mnorals instead of allowing morals to come however?
I agree that TV and Movies are not the only problem. Can we take it a step further?
Some children are taught to hate. Palestinians teach their children to hate Israel, Israel likewise does the same. They send out propaganda through their villages and cities. What can be done to stop it?
Thanks for approving my comment (I just wish I could verify my comment after I submit as I do make mistakes while typing). Anyway coming to this moral policing I do agree we can and we should inculcate good values in our kids but we can't dictate for everybody (the TV media runs on ads revenue and businesses like to place their ads on popular programs which have those content which appeals to most people).
I am with you about teaching kids to be open and tolerant of others. Love and kindness is needed now more than ever when people don't have good relationships then whatever comes out from the other group is always viewed with suspicion. I guess parents have a huge role to play to mould kids but again for those who lose their family members or have there houses destroyed then it will take years for those wounds to be healed. It is a very difficult situation and I don't know what else to say.
The problem is that even if something could be done to wipe out sex and violence and other things, it would be only a matter of time before something else objectionable would come up.
There is always going to be some type of evil and bad things in this world until Jesus comes back.
We have to teach morals and values. We have to make it important in our children's lives and we have to be good examples of it. It is unfortanate that we can't protect our kids and shelter them for the rest of their lives anymore than we can keep them from growing up and dealing with more than what they see now.
It has to start with the parents and it is our hope that we teach them and guide them well enough to make the right choices.
My apologies CW. I thought I clicked approve.
I agrewe completely KW, but it must start somewhere. It is after all a spiritual battle.
What I got from this hub was you care very dearly about your son and about people spending quality time with their kids. No where did I get you were implying that pornography leads to violence, but what I got from that is if a parent is online cruising porn sites he or she is probably not spending quality time with their kids. The same could be sad for any activity that a parent spends more time on than their children. My personal belief is it is people are perfectly capable of practicing birth control, and if people have kids they should be willing to sacrifice certain things at that point. There are simple cases where a kid just feels neglected, and more extreme cases where a child needs extra attention and the parents are just ignoring them. There are many parents out there who care about their kids and do the best by them, but I always feel disturbed when I see a parent talking on a cell phone or chatting with friends just letting their kids run into traffic and cause a reckus. I have been in stores before where a parent is on a cell phone and the kids are running around knocking things over, and then the salesperson has to babysit and intervene. If people are not ready to practice adult responsibility, then they should not have kids. Sometimes a violent individual could have come from the best of homes, but many other times the adult was acting out because their parents did not give them attention when they were little. I knew one guy who admitted to a criminal past even though he turned his life around, but he stated how his parents really were not there for him when he was younger. They allowed him to ditch school and get caught up in juvenile delinquency, so it only took him committing a crime as an adult before he decided to shape up.
Hi Sir D - I think it would be hard to demonstrate a causal link between pornography and serious crime. That said, I agree that some material is too readily available and some should never be produced at all. However, I suspect (and also can't prove) that normal mainstream advertising which tends to turn people into unquestioning consumers actually does more harm to the fabric of society and the mental health of the individual than does pornography. Perhaps, so also does mainstream TV - endless and mindless gameshows, celebrity chat shows and 'reality' popularity contests. That stuff saps the intelligence, while agenda-driven 'news' skews judgment.
Thanks for the acknowledgement. (I think, in your opening paragraph, you really meant 'instrumental', not 'detrimental'?)
SirDent,
You may recall a discussion a while ago about guns, and how the Europeans and Australians here on Hubpages were keen to assert that restricting access to firearms leads to a reduction in gun crime? Well pornography is similar. The idea comes before the act. Monkey see, monkey do. We can only do our best for our children whilst they are in our care, but there may be negative influences in abundance outside the home. An interest in sex is normal, but an interest in deviant or violent sex needs to be actively discouraged. If we remove the possibilty (i.e. the suggestion that these things are possible) then we reduce the probability of copy-catting.
Sweetie, that is not what I was trying to convey, but I appreciate your comment. It does show a different side that I did not show in the hub. I may need to rewrite and edit it to put your thoughts to it also.
I agree that many parents do not watch their children closely enough and cell phones seems to be one of the biggest distractions these days that parents use. Overall, I believe it to be a lack of love that allows parents to let their children wander freely in settings where they should be watched very closely,
Paraglider, I appreciate your input here. What I attempted to say is that porn played a small part in shaping Bundy into what he became. It isn't the only thing that caused him to do what he did.
I agree with you about advertisements and TV. I remember reading an article not too long ago about how many creators of movies and TV shows us subliminal messages. They would put things in their shows that weren't readily seen by the normal or average viewer.
I edited the word and changed it. I always appreciate editing help.
AmandaI do remember the discussion that went on about guns. I understand what you are saying, but the reality is that if children are raised around killing, stealing, and fighting, they most likely will kill, steal and/or fight.
If we remove the glamorization of killing, stealing, fighting, it would be much easier to raise children who do not do those things.
What I am saying (or trying to say) is this. If we remove everything that shows killing and violence from society, children will not be able to see it, touch it, handle it, eat it, etc. . .
I think we are broadly in agreement here. Humans have a herd-like tendency to follow the crowd. We are failing our children if we continually allow them access to material that suggests that corruption, violence and depravity are normal. As I said earlier, monkey see, monkey do.
I appreciate your concern for all children, and it seems as though, you are concerned for your own....however, I think that it is extreme to remove all pornography from our country, when you stated:
"If we limit what our children see, would that not help them to make better choices as adults?"
You also are saying:
"If we remove everything that shows killing and violence from society, children will not be able to see it, touch it, handle it, eat it, etc. . ."
and you said:
"One thing Bundy mentioned that affected him very deeply was in grocery stores at the age of 12 or 13 he found soft-core pornography and was fascinated by it."
"He was guilty and knew he was guilty. He was merely trying to let everyone know what helped too push him to do what he did."
"Now the question changes to, "What can we do from here on in?"
"This means destroying porn completely"
Sir Dent, you will need to move to a fundamentalist Muslim country in order to live the life you seek. Should you do, please remember that children in many of these countries experience death in the streets, via suicide bombers, car bombings, Taliban controlled neighborhoods where your religion is suspect, and violence will be undoubtedly exercised against you, your family, home. Where there may not be work for you, nor paved roads to travel upon to get there, let alone a safe route without armed men waiting for your arrival. Should you move to one of these countries, expect to be tried by a local tribal leader, since they may NOT practice organized forms of legal justice based on a constitution that protects your right to a formal trial. You may perhaps be incarcerated in extremely hostile and violent conditions, for just being Christian, since there are no human rights practiced, nor freedom of religion. You would then be very fortunate should there be a jail, if not, then expect to be executed on the spot, which maybe the local tradition.
Thanks be to God for our founding fathers creating a constitution that protects our fundamental rights. A systematic society that protects these rights. So protect your own children, and be very grateful we have these protections for your religion, your opinion.
No hate here, just balanced view to help you come to terms with being frustrated, disillusioned that there is safety in a controlled society.
Satan is everywhere, at least here, in the U. S., you may protect your children the best way YOU know how, without resticting TV, cell phones, cars, schools, etc. etc. etc.
Limiting and eliminating are two different things. I would rather live where I have certain rights within my home to limit and eliminate by choice, rather than a place where my life is limited, and may be eliminated on demand.
SirDent, I find this to be an interesting discussion because it is challenging to figure out why children become what they become, from all angles, i.e., I wonder why Ted Haggard, the evangelical leader, chose the life he chose. I wonder why the two suburban Colorado boys chose to kill at Columbine. I wonder how anyone can rise above a horrendous childhood o poverty, abuse or trauma to become a contributing member of society and sometimes even a hero. Tis a puzzlement! Thanks for the discussion.
Amanda, if the material wasn't there for them to get hold of, it would be much easier to instill morals in children. In my opinion it seems what it boils down to is this. What sacrifice is too great for us ot make for our children?
Should we keep porn and violence, or get rid of it completely? If we keep it but try to keep it hidden. it will always surface in some form or another.
I do realize that it isn't going to happen, but it may cause someone to watch more diligently over their children.
I appreciate your comment very much Amanda and, like you, I believe we are in agreement.
Dealornodeal, I appreciate your comment, however I disagree with it.
We do indeed have the right to freedom of speech, but how far do we take that right if it causes our children to be destroyed?
Muslim countries are not immune to the things of the world either. I also see that you thank God for the founding fathers, but yet say you want to keep porn and violence on TV or movies or wherever you watch it.
Do you believe unclean spirits can infiltrate the human mind or heart?
I have no idea about Ted Haggard Storytellersrus, but I did read about the boyds at Columbine.
Of course this could be false, but in my opinion it is most likely true. The boys who did the shooting at Columbine were regular listeners of Marilyn Manson. Manson is a satanist and will do anything no matter who it hurts.
For those who are interested, I found videos of Bundy's last interview. I will also announce it on the hub text. They are below the comment section. I thought to be the best place to put them.
SirDent
Agreement is not my goal, enlightenment is. I control my childrens' surroundings to protect them. I am grateful that I have the freedom to do this. I do not need my government to control pornograpy to protect my children, when I do a pretty good job of this myself. You missed my point that Satan is everywhere. So where would you rather be? You can have freedom to be a Christian here, or be persecuted in a pornographic free environment? The spirit world is good and evil everywhere. We can't always get what we want, so take care of your children and feel blessed we have this freedom. I do not see how one insane person means changing the Constitution.
You state:
"I also see that you thank God for the founding fathers, but yet say you want to keep porn and violence on TV or movies or wherever you watch it."
I am being misunderstood...I don't want to keep porn, violence, it may be unavoidable in a free society. I do not watch TV, commercials, and my children are exposed to as wholesome of videos and dvd's, as I have available. The point is, I control my environment for the good of my family, I do not need others to do this for me and my family.
I hope you and your children are going to church. This is a great way to stay away from the bad influences that you are frightened of. So perhaps there are bad people in church too, regardless, it is a great place to be, rather than watching TV, movies, computer, that have content you don't approve of.
Debate is great, another reason I love the Constitution.
how about some of the parents take some blame for how their kids turn out,,,,it seems like we blame how the kids behaviour is too much on the things they watch or hear,,,,,or letting them make to many descisions that yrs ago parents use to make for you,,
Dealornodeal, yes I do go to church and take my son with me. You are talking about a few hours a week out of 168. He goes to school 5 days a week. I cannot protect him while he is at school. I cannot protect his eyes from seeing a half naked woman on a billboard either if we drive past them.
I think maybe you should read the hub I linked at the beginning of this one. You will get a better handle on where I am coming from.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Freedom-of-Speech-Absolute
I appreciate your comment very much really. :)
Silly, do you believe unclean spirits can enter into the heart and mind of a person?
I have said nothing about letting parents off the hook. What exactly is the purpose of having porn?
Thanks for visiting this hub and commenting also.
Thank you for being my first fan. I like to debate, and I will check out your freedom of speech absoulute hub.
The Freedom of Speech hub isn't my hub. Please check it out though. :)
I see what you are saying now. When I read it the first time I just was too quick to comment. I think my comment was probably more about my own observations than the article.
Sweetie, it adds another dimension tot he article that I hadn't written about. )
only think they can enter if a person lets them
You are right sort of. If a door is locked it can;t be open without busting it open. If a dor is already opened then it can be entered through.
well like i said parents should patrol more of what their kids watch or where they go,, kids today are given to to much freedom
A former friend of mine was employed in a porn shop for a while and the changes in him were immediately evident. He couldn't just look at regular porn anymore, it had to be fetish magazines. Whats next, kiddy porn? Then he began to act out what he saw with his wife. He is the first to know when porn stars come to town to sign autographs, which is more frequent than one might realize. I don't know how long it's been, but the last time I wen't to his house it was plastered with erotic images in every room.
I don't know how his wife stands it, I don't know how any wife could. I have heard it said that quiting pornography is harder than quiting even the hardest drugs. drinking and smoking doesn't hold a candle to this vice which so thouroughly dominates our socioty. It has swept across America and into our lives like an avalanche of evil, and it is everywhere.
When there is a storm howling around you from every direction you can take certain precautions to survive it; you can dress warm and seek out shelter, you can stock a winters supply, you can build a fire to keep the cold out. The same can be done when dealing with pornography; we should wish to supress all the evils of the world from our midst and seek out the virtuous and praiseworthy things of life, this is my hope.
I agree that porn is useless to us, and is a powerful tool of satan. YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEACHIS BEING ABUSED. Sin is all to acceptable to society today, and our children are being targeted. You are right to be concerned as a parent. Though I feel the best way to approach this problem, is to bring to light the deception of satan. Arm your children with the truth, so they don't become victims. Teach your son the real harm behind this problem, tell him the true intention of lucifer. Don't allow him to be desencitized like the rest of society. I commend you on your efforts to confront this problem. satan's only power over us comes through deception. It's like a magician's power to captivate his audience. Once you expose his secrets he is powerless. We may not be able to keep our children from being exposed to these Evils, but by exposing the source we can maybe break their power over them. I will pray for you and your son. P.S. I Bet our fore fathers never intended for their words to be used to protect this kind of social destruction.
Hi SirDent,
thanks for bringing up the topic. Responsible upbringing of children is more complex than limiting what is accessible to them. Nonetheless, in the over-tolerant society we find our children in, we probably should err on the side of being over conservative.
Good hub. Sad but right on target. I do feel we have let our children down in many ways. We are not taking the responsiblity we should be taking in their lives and haven't in several decades now and it's showing in our nation in a huge way. For those who deny it, I feel it's those who are blind to it. We need to step up and be the parents and role models that we should be. I think a lot of people see the things you mentioned as harmless, but they are not. Not at all. They are just a way for Satan to get his foot in the door to open it to larger and harder things. Well done and well written. Thanks for calling us on this!
Onusonus, you always seem to bring soemthing extra for us to read and I appreciate it very much.
Thanks for visiting and commenting on this hub Jesus_save_us_7. Porn is really useless, but not only porn. There are a lot of things that could be done away with that are actually bad for everyone.
Benson Yeung, I agree completely. Everyone talks about tolerance but many allow too many destructive influences into their homes.
ASU, it is good to see you back. Many do believe porn to be harmless. Some think it keep predators from going after victims, but it makes them worse. Thanks for the read and comment.
I do believe that there is way too much attention brought to these negative influences. I do think that it is up to the parents to instill positive upbringing and teach about the negative things that can cause mental harm to our youth. Thumbs up Sir Dent.
CS, I really appreciate the comment you made. We do need to bring our children up in the right way and teach them abput such evilness.
i agree with c.s.,,,,,,,,,parents have to go back to teaching kids right from wrong what is good and bad,,,and be the boss,,not letting the kids run the show,,,
Silly, I think I already agreed with that. Parents must know what's right and what's wrong to begtin with before teachiung their children.
VIolence and sex is glorified and glamorized all over the place. It isa easily gotten hold of. That's what bothers me most.
one could ask when are some parents going to quit being scared of their kids,, or some when are they going to care enough to keep track of what their kids read or watch or what kind of friends they hang out with
I undertsand what you;re saying Silly, but you cvan't keep them under and imbrella constantly. If many of those things were eliminated, there would be no need for so much diligence.
Sir Dent,
Good you point out that parents need to know what is right and wrong, seems this problem has been growing for a few generations now doesn't it?
So true CS. It is hard to teach children what's right and wrong if the parents have no idea themselves.
I wonder what the founding fathers would have done faced with unlimited porn.
HI. I’m late as usual, but still would like to say something. You are so right, SirDent in everything you wrote. But not always it works. You know, I grew up under socialism and many things were forbidden there, bad as well as good. Church and Bible are some of them. Also, pornography was absolutely forbidden and people could go to jail for violating the rules. But as known, forbidden fruit is sweet. The more they restrict, the more it grows under cover. I agree, if porno was forbidden by law (and it should be, my opinion) it would be harder to access it, yes. But who has a wish for stuff like this, they would get it anyway. On the contrary, who is immune against it by family values, by the way of being brought up, he will not be influenced. I remember that in 7th or 8th grade somebody brought a deck of porno cards to my class at school. We all were looking on the pictures, bad kids and good kids, boys and girls, because it was something new, forbidden (it added interest, by the way). I don’t remember what happened to those pictures; I looked and forgot, as I had more interesting stuff going in my life. I think besides talking to our children and showing them what’s good by the ways we live, we also have to fill their free time by good and clever activities, so that they just don’t have time for stupid things.
There has been an established link between pornography and the mental de-humanizing of women (ask any Women's Studies Major). When we are taught to see people as objects, rather than human beings there is a fundamental change in our perception of right and wrong. People will emulate those that they think are successful, take celebrities for example. Some people will do anything to be near a celebrity even to the extent of stalking or breaking into their homes. We cease to see them as REAL people. Pornography has the same effect on the psyche especially if view at a young age. Children are not able to be subjective. If they see adults de-humanizing adults, they learn that it is OK.
I have no idea how I feel about removing porn all together - I am a big fan of my rights. I DO think it should be hard for children to see it. I think that has improved quite a bit since I was a child and Playboy was displayed at the check out counter. Maybe we need to do more.
I DO think that parenting is more than just telling you kids right from wrong, but teaching them WHY and HOW to have empathy. The world is not all about them...it is about all of us.
Thanks for the discussion !!
Hi SirDent - the trail that started with my Freedom of Speech hub and led you to write this one now has a sequel. I'd be interested in your take on this new one: http://hubpages.com/hub/This-Site-Has-Been-Blocked
Thank you Paraglider for the notice. I read the article but not sure exactly what to say at this time. I bookmarked it so I can find it easily again and will comment soon.
Wow! This is a great old Hub. Thanks for bringing my attention to it. I see you had a lot of response here. Well done.
Yes there was a lot of response Jasmes. Mostly positive too. Thanks for stopping and commenting.
Nicole Winter Level 3 Commenter 3 years ago
The kind of evil that infiltrated Ted Bundy's heart wasn't due to pornography... you said it yourself, he lived in a loving family, with four brothers / sisters. Why didn't they grow up to become mass-murdering maniacs? They were undoubtably exposed to the same situations and images that their brother was... *sigh* Pornography isn't my favorite thing in the world, but without it most sex shops wouldn't be able to operate and when I want to buy a bottle of lubricant and you've all done away with pornography I'll have to buy knock-off drugstore crud. And that cannot be! Don't get me wrong, I love kids, but protecting them by limiting the choices adults can make is wrong. Pornography, sex toys, and sex shops do not hurt children. Inproper adult supervision hurts children. It takes a lot more than soft/hard core porn to bear fruits to a serial killer, and I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that something much more traumatic, (and probably buried in his subconscious,) happened to young Ted Bundy than pornography to turn him into the killing machine he became.