Right Heart, New Start

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By SirDent

A New Heart

Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

People tend to hold grudges forever at times it seems, but we all have held a grudge against someone at one time or another. I know there are some people who still hold grudges against some who had died years ago. It sounds really silly to read about it doesn't it?

I am going to move to the New testament for the rest of this article now. There was something that happened that can show us where we need to be so that our hearts can be made right.

The Arrest of Jesus

Detail of Fra Angelico, "Arrest of Christ" (c.1450). Fresco, 182 x 181. Museo di San Marco, Cell 33, Florence, Italy. Note Judas with black halo at left. Peter cuts off ear of Malchus on right.
Detail of Fra Angelico, "Arrest of Christ" (c.1450). Fresco, 182 x 181. Museo di San Marco, Cell 33, Florence, Italy. Note Judas with black halo at left. Peter cuts off ear of Malchus on right.

Malchus

Malchus was a man who was a slave to the high priest. He isn't mentioned much in the New Testament, but what happened to him plays a major role in what happens to us many times in our lives. You see, Malchus was with the crowd who went to the garden to arrest Jesus. He is the very one whose ear was cut off by Peter with a sword.

Now put yourself in Malchus' place for a minute. He knew the disciples and Jesus well enough to know that they wouldn't hurt him. He knew the message they preached and that it was a message of peace. But now suddenly because he happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong crowd, he is bleeding to death from a wound which removed his right ear. To beat it all, the wound was caused by a man who preached peace.

Nowhere in the Bible does it mention Peter ever coming back and apologizing to Malchus. Picture him standing there, or maybe even on his knees, blood pouring out of the side of his head where his ear used to be. Automatically our hand will go to the wound and cover it. I'm sure he was probably dumbfounded and unable to speak. There were no paramedics to come to his aid. No first aid kit that he kept with him. So here he is about to bleed to death with nobody to help him. It seems really grim at this time doesn't it.

Jesus Healing His Ear

A New Start

As Malchus was bleeding to death, his hand over his wound, Jesus rebuked Peter. He touched Malchus' ear and healed it. Something had to happen before Jesus could heal his ear. The first thing Malchus had to do was remove his hand and expose the wound to Jesus. This is what we need to do ourselves. Instead of holding grudges against others, even those who are leaders in the church, we must expose our wounds to Jesus.

After the wound is exposed, then Jesus can heal it. We are so bad to carry our hurts around with us. We put our hand over the wound and won'tlet Jesus heal us. All He wants to do is good for us. He only expects us to allow Him access to our wounds.

In order to trust Jesus and allow Him to heal our wounds we must have a new insight into who he is. This is where the new heart comes from. Once we realize who He is and what he wants, our hearts will change. It is then that healing can take place. Once healing come, it is then that we get a brand new start.

Jesus will set us on a new path that is straight. It leads straight to heaven. We must simply commit ourselves to the will of God. This is where many fall short. They want healing and they want to go to heaven, but they don't want to submit to God.

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Nice hub with a good point.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks Sweetie for the comment. :)

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christinekv Level 1 Commenter 3 years ago

Nice hub Sirdent....your second to the last paragraph is so paramount....if only we as a people, Christian and other alike, will trust and surrender control.... understanding His intentions for us are good (Jeremiah 29:11...), as He truly is the only one who can set us free.

Although knowing the mind of God is a mystery, discovering His heart and personality doesn't have to be.

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talented_ink 3 years ago

I may not comment on every hub, but I thoroughly enjoy the profoundness of your words. Right heart, new start...once we bare our wounds, God enables us to be able to forgive. That's one message I got from your words. Thanks for sharing.

jeromeo 3 years ago

At a time when God, through the words written in Revelation, is telling people to get out of Babylone the great/the Church, you seem to be intent on keeping them in harms way.

Because they preach the very things you mention in this hub which are not true, they bear false representation to the will of God.

The church's of our time are much like the Pharisees and Seducess that delivered Jesus to the Roman Court and then when Pilot would have set him free, they instigated the crowd to call for his death.

I understnd that your point of view comes from an insufficient knowledge, or true undertstanding of the Bible and it's principles.

Question: If everyone is going to heaven then why did God create the Earth.

I do believe your intentions are good and forth-right, but by inviting your readers to continue to seek comfort in the Church, you are condeming them to death, when God destroys the wicked system of things.

Read Revelations, take your time and read it well, if you have discernment you will see that the Churchs tried to stop the truth form getting out.

At any rate, I applaud the basic principle of forgivness in your message but as for the chruch leaders you speak of, the Bible says those who add to the Rev. will have their suffering added to and those who take away from it will have their share of life taken away, 22:18,19.

One final point if you believe that the Church's are precsenting the truth, and not part of the great harlot spoken of in Revelation. Explain this: When Jesus is Baptized by John, a Voice form Heaven says."This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. at the same moment a Dove which represents the Holy Spirit Desends upon Jesus.

"Jesus . . . was baptized . . . And immediately on coming up out of the water . . . like a dove, the spirit coming down upon him; and a voice came out of the heavens: ‘You are my Son, the beloved; I have approved you.’"—Mark 1:9-11.

In this one setting you have the three seperate entities that make up eliments of what the Churchs describe as One entity, that being God the Holy Spirit, and Jesus christ, all roll into one. Jesus is not God, Jehovah is God, and the Holy Spirit is God's active force, [LOVE] But the Churchs would have you stone anyone who says, that Jesus is not god.

The Bible clearly states repetedly that mankind is due to inhiert the earth but thanks to the chruch people talk of going to heaven, and burning forever in hell. The Bible says the dead are consience of nothing, and it we all go to heaven then of waht use is the resurrection.

Since the Bible reveals that the dead are unconscious, why should you fear them? (Psalm 146:4) They can neither help you nor harm you. You now know from the Bible that the "soul" dies and that the "spirit" has no conscious existence apart from the body. Whatever manifestations have given rise to fear of the dead must therefore be from another source. Since in some cases persons claim to gain some improvement in their problems as a result of engaging in acts of appeasement for the dead, this source would have to be one that is willing to bring such temporary relief, but for a wrong motive. What is its aim? To keep people in bondage and blinded to the way to a life free from fear and dread.

I invite you to do as you say but first reea the Bible get the sense of it then, follow a Right heart to a new start. By encourageing all that read your Hub so continue in the Church you bring a great weight aginst yourself, by going directly aginst God's admonistion to get out of her.

Should you desire to discuss the things I have put forth one on one, I welcome that private discussion.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Christine, I appreciate your comment and encouragement. I am always glad to hear form you on mu hubs. There is so much wisodm in your words.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you talented_ink. I appreciate your comments also. Encouragement to do the will of God is always needed in the Church. The Word of God has many messages from the same text. This is why it is called the "Living Word"

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Jeromeo, I don't really know what to say to you. I appreciate the comment, but can't follow what you're trying to say. How can anyone say all churches are dead? Christ didn't say it. And he didn't say come out of the church either.

The Church is the body of Christ. Made up of many members. A body cannot be complete without both arms, both legs, both hands, both feet, a upper torso, etc. . . If an arm or hand is removed the body is not complete.

Recall what God said in Genesis also. It is not good for man to be alone. God ordained that we stick together. Anyone who has to go off on his own is rebellious.

I apologize for the first statement I made, I guess I do have something to say.

Alicia 3 years ago

I really enjoyed your writing on allowing Jesus to heal our hearts. Unfortunatly...Jeromeo is the one who does not have a clear understand. SirDent you are not talking about a "church" such as an organization; you are talking about "The Church" the body of Christ which if we have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ into our hearts as Lord and Savior, we are His Body! Only then can we come into true healing as we have a "Relationship" with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit! Thank you SirDent for reminding us that we must allow ourselves to be vunerable before God in order to be healed....Lord, create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me! Psalms 51:10

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you Alicia for your comment. Yes mostly I was talking about the body of Christ. But at the same time we are urged to gather together in Jesus name.

We must remember that what God has ordained, we must follow and do. King David said, (paraphrasing) "I was glad when they said let us go to the house of the Lord." There was organization back in his time and there is today. I think Jeromeo might be thinking of the Catholic church or something similar. I do state that I am not a Catholic. I further state that I am a member of a non denominational church.

I also want to let everyone know that I have been pondering the body for quite some time lately. I'm sure there will be another hub in the near future on the matter.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Jesus didn't have to touch his ear to heal it at all. He was so much higher in his spiritalness that he healed it by thought and light and colors.....

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

It was a supernatural touch LG. The point of this artice is that we must expose our wounds to Jesus first. Jesus is still a gentleman and will let us keep our wounds if we want to.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Why would we have to show jesus anything when God already knows what we are going to do and have done? We are the ones that have to forgive ourselves first. Jesus also was a gentleman ---after his youth. He had t go through and leanr and grow just like the rest of us. He tells us that we can be just like him and he even tells us how to do that. Read my hub Rainbows..........

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

How many people go around hiding their wounds? They hold to their grudges against others and have bitterenss in their hearts. I was there at one time myself. The reason we must show our wounds to Jesus is because it is He who heals.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Jesus said Heal Thyself!......period. Hiding wounds is preventing germs from getting in. Hiding guilt is man's way of hiding his light that God gave him to begin with. Ye Are Gods, Christ said--in that we can heal oursleves and forgive ourselves and Jesus shows the way and it is literal-----Religions want you to believe that it is difficult and that you have to go through them to do it--hogwash! Jesus said that the law is in the hearts and minds of men---from the geniginng------we already know God becasye we are a part of him---God is all energy and electrcity and we are too. Ask, Seek,Believe-----in yourselves.....he siad that we can move mountains and do whatever we please and we have FREE WILL---that means we have cause and re-action to every choice that we make----Hell is a place where they burned trash and bodies in a big pit--hell isn't where anyone is going--unless you are a trashman or a caretaker of the fire that burns.

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

I could be wrong, but I think Jerome is a Jehovah's Witness. They are nice Christian people, but some of their interpretations of the Bible are not mainstream. It works for them, but some of their ideas are not the same as mainline Christians.

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Jeromeo Level 2 Commenter 3 years ago

your write SweetiePie, I am a Jehovah's Witiness, and though our strict interpetation of the Scriptures and door to door ministries we are working hard to save as many of our brothers and sisters as we can before the end of this wicked system of things.

I encourage you to read your Bible, and apply, and find the flaws in the way the Chruchs mangle the true message in the Bible to suit Satans agenda.

Or better yet next time a Jehovah's Withness nocks on your door, let them in and spend some time listneing to what they have to say. Hopegfully you will change your mind about who trully represents God.

Jeromeo, JW

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Jeromeo,

Wow and how do they plan on getting only the 144,000 into heaven if you all plan to save everyone. Do you realize there are some billions of people in the world. Where are the rest of them going to go--hell? Geez, I am sorry you get the bopby prize cuz you ain't one of the 144,000! LOL

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Oh and read your bibles--now which one would that be and what version?

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christinekv Level 1 Commenter 3 years ago

Wow Sir Dent, the hubs you write sure receive a lot of comments from people who want to be controversial. You are a blessed man according to the Word of God, "blessed are those who mistreat you on account of me," - Jesus.

It is evident to me that the enemy (satan) is trying to bring confusion to the simple message you were led to share and snatch away the seeds.

The 144,000 btw has to do with the 12 tribes of Israel, not the JW's. Sweetiepie, although I do respect others and it is my desire to love others, regardless of what they believe, often times, love does come in the form of truth and it is not always well received. You are far more gracious and complimentary than I with your statement since even though I've known JW's who are certainly 'nice' I would not consider them Christians - they are not motivated by Love but by Works. A good book you may want to check out is by Ron Rhoades and is titled, "Reasoning from the Scriptures w/ the Jehovah Witnesses." Alot of JW's don't even know why they believe the way they do...they have a Watchtower society telling them and always changing their positions on doctrine...for example, at one point in time, not only were they not allowed to receive blood transfusions, but they also were not allowed to receive organ transplants either...those positions have been reversed. My husbands family is ex JW, I've done some studying, and my auntie has done some studying and if anyone questions whether there is truth in this or not, you can certainly check it out for yourself, but the Watchtower society also see's themselves as the reincarnation of the prophet Ezeikiel...perhaps that's what got Jerome's confused feathers all ruffled in the first place.

Oh and I know Jehovah too, Jehovah Rapha (healer), Jehovah Nissi (Victorious) and His name is Jesus, the Great I AM.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Now go read the entire chapter and see the difference it has http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=33&am

We are not to take things out of context for the use of power over another by man....

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Lady Guinevere says:3 hours ago

Jesus said Heal Thyself!......period. Hiding wounds is preventing germs from getting in. Hiding guilt is man's way of hiding his light that God gave him to begin with.

SirDent: You will have to show me the exact scrpiture. I think you are mistaken and in fact are speaking of where the people told Jesus, "Heal thyself."

Jesus went around healing people everywhere He went. Not one person did He turn down. Not once did Jesus heal Himself though either.

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Lady Guinevere says:10 minutes ago

Now go read the entire chapter and see the difference it has http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=33&am

We are not to take things out of context for the use of power over another by man....

SirDent: LG I don't think anyone is trying to have power over any man. In fact this article is to bring people to God.

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Jeromeo says:83 minutes ago

your write SweetiePie, I am a Jehovah's Witiness, and though our strict interpetation of the Scriptures and door to door ministries we are working hard to save as many of our brothers and sisters as we can before the end of this wicked system of things.

SirDent: I have one thing to ask of you Jeromeo. You speak of your interpretation of the scriptures. The world has their interpretation also. Mormons have theirs. Catholics have theirs. What about God's interpretations of the scriptures? Where do His interpretations fit in?

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christinekv says:32 minutes ago

Wow Sir Dent, the hubs you write sure receive a lot of comments from people who want to be controversial. You are a blessed man according to the Word of God, "blessed are those who mistreat you on account of me," - Jesus.

SirDent: Controversy followed Jesus everywhere He went. There was always someone trying to kill Him. I recall reading about the time He went into the synagogue to teach (as was His custom), and reading from Isaiah: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me and has anointed me." (paraphrased) After He sat down the people looked at one another then grabbed Him and took Him to a hill to cast Him over it to kill Him. He escape.

Truth does hurt sometimes, especially when it goes against the desires of the flesh. But it is better to be hurt by truth than to believe a lie and be damned.

Thank you once again for the comment. I appreciate it greatly.

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sandra rinck 3 years ago

I do believe the bible reads that 144000 will be judges and the rightous and unrightous will be resurrected from the dead and live in Paridise on Earth with Jesus as our King and rightful ruler of this world.

Sir Dent, it is a wonderful hub, and you are right the body is incomplete without both arms and legs etc. I think what Jeromeo is trying to say by getting out of babylon the great is to stop worshiping in wooden or concrete houses built to worship Jesus Christ instead of God the Father.

I believe it is because God and Jesus are asking us to unite together as a hole body without divisions and the way to do that would be to come together under the Heavens on Earth and put aside our differences to help save on another.

Yes, we will all die at least once but we are striving to do is to remove the barriers between different congregations and interpretations of the Bible and to stand together as brothers and sisters as we were intended to do.

Our Spirits are the same as we all believe in God, so I have to ask why seperate if we all share the same Love for God and Jesus Christ?

So as you said in this hub, to not hold grudges, why then would some hold a grudge againts one who says please come out of the wooden houses of worship and be together under the One God in Heaven?

In a vision Jesus asked me to take a walk, he said we need to stay away from the houses built for worship and put His foot over our heads as protection, not a roof that can fall down.

Anyways, I am pretty sure you don't like what I have to say and find comfort in an inadimate object that gives you false protection, but in short I am saying, have faith that all you will ever need is the One Above for protection. Then we can be different and together at the same time.

I love you regardless though.

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einron Level 4 Commenter 3 years ago

Jerome as a Jehovah's Witness is not a Christian because he does not believe Jesus is part of the Godhead.

Any one who bears grudges cannot go forward in life as a true Christian because  a Christian must forgive as many times as he is sinned against.

Matthew 18:21-22:  Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?  till seven times?

(v. 22) Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. This means not counting at all.

Malchus probably owes no grudges against Peter.  He probably was too shocked to think of grudges.  Jesus on the other hand was thinking of saving Peter from killing Malchus because Peter did it not wilfully, but out of love for Christ.  He did not have self control.  By healing Malchus, Jesus accomplishes two objectives, Peter and Malchus are both saved from harm.  Praise the Lord Jesus Christ! 

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christinekv Level 1 Commenter 3 years ago

Lady Guinevere, since you are acquainted with available resources and appear to have an opinion that is in conflict with what Sir Dent has posted and seem to be stating he has taken things out of context, I'd be very curious and interested to read/hear what you think Ezeikiel 36 is saying. Are you up for that challenge? There is a scripture that says as "iron sharpens iron, so one man (person) sharpens another." Having a healthy dialogue about how individuals view scripture should be a positive activity to engage in.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

SirDent,

This is what I found in Luke 4:

20Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, 21and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

22All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his lips. "Isn't this Joseph's son?" they asked.

23Jesus said to them, "Surely you will quote this proverb to me: 'Physician, heal yourself! Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.' "

24"I tell you the truth," he continued, "no prophet is accepted in his hometown. 25I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah's time, when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was a severe famine throughout the land. 26Yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, but to a widow in Zarephath in the region of Sidon. 27And there were many in Israel with leprosy[f] in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet not one of them was cleansed—only Naaman the Syrian."

It does not give into the account of Jesus words that no one could not heal themselves. He did give the power of all his disciples the power to heal in another part of the books. Though this account is only one account and his whole life and ministry is not included in the Bible--there are other accounts from other books that are not included in the Bible..

Jeromeo 3 years ago

Plenty of mis-informaton. Jehovah's Witnesses, still refused to take blood. and my feathers are not ruffled. those who want to be saved will be. Those who do not won't. God gave us all free will so it's for each individual to choose. We look for lost sheep Who recognize the need to have [Accurate Knowledge] of God. And serve him according to his will.

Sir Dent. The body of Christ you speak of is the church that does the Will of God. If the Church preaches a trinity and there is not trinity then it is preaching a false doctern.

If the church preaches that the dead go to heaven, and they do not, then it is misrepresenting God. By all means let us come together, but let's come toghther under the truth. Not ATM machines in the lobby of the church. This is the same set of circumstances that caused Jesus to throw the money changes out of the temple. Changing the house of God into a place of commerce.

I placed the Scriptual references to my position in my comment so you could read them for yourself. So I appreciate your having something to say, but unless the Church supports God's Will it's is born out of the teachings of Old Babylon, as fostered by Nimrod.

NIMROD DEVELOPS A DIFFERENT SPIRIT

11 However, the world of mankind today does not have that spirit of united worship toward the Creator, Jehovah God. Since all the human family today has descended from those eight Flood survivors, why is not the worshipful spirit that they had back there the spirit of the world today? It is principally because of a man who did not choose to follow the example of his great-grandfather Noah. He chose to cultivate an opposite spirit, one of opposition to Noah’s God, Jehovah. Who was this man? Nimrod, who descended from Noah through Ham and Ham’s son Cush. He wanted to become somebody big and mighty among mankind and to rule over others. He did not distinguish himself as a peaceable farmer or as a shepherd. He made a name for himself as a hunter, becoming finally a killer of men as well as a killer of wild animals. Nimrod’s spirit caught hold of other men, so that at last a proverb was composed and was applied to those imitators of that bad-spirited man: "Just like Nimrod a mighty hunter in opposition to Jehovah."—Gen. 10:9.

12 No, Nimrod did not become a farmer like his great-grandfather Noah. (Gen. 9:20) He planned on building cities. He wanted to herd people together and rule over them as king, organizing them for his ambitious purposes. His first city became famous, and it has affected the history of the world of mankind. It was Babylon, as the Greeks called it, or Babel, as Noah and his son Shem called it. Most people remember Babylon for its tower of Babel, at which the language of the builders became all mixed up. Only a few people may remember Babylon as the capital city that was built by Nimrod, the starter of human politics.—Gen. 11:1-9.

Lady G seems to be emotionally upset by my position and to put forth a lot of hearsay information about Witnesses.

The changes that she refers to when they occur are the results of the fact that the Jehovah's Witnesse organization is a progressive organization, made up of imperfect humans, chosen by Jesus Christ to promote the [Will] of his father.

EX, Jehovah's Witnesses are know as Apostate Christians, people who know the truth but willingly turn their backs on God and his Will.

I have only to believe Lady G, has never spoken to one but is going by what she has heard. All I can say is read the Bible it is all right there for whom ever would embrace the TRUTH. One God, One Faith, One Baptism.

The invitation to a private discussion is still onpen Sir Dent.

Jeromeo

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

You are right LG in your last comment. He did give power to the twelve to cast out devils and to heal all manner of sickness and disease. He then sent them forth out in the world to preach the kingdom of God and to show the power of God to the people.

I don't expect anyone to agree with my opinions and such. My ideas will always fall short of being right. It is when you disagree with God that trouble has come to you.

jeromeo 3 years ago

TIMIE-OUT,

Let me say this, right now.

Sir Dent, I have the utmost respect for you. As a man, and as a fellow Hubber, I know this Hub is an attempt for your heart to bring us altoghter.

However in setting aside our differences we have to openly discuss them. By explaining our different positions and making an attempt to understand the other guys position we eventually meet in the middle. And if notheing else we agree to disagree.

Personal attacks have no place in the discussion because they serve no purpose except to lower the bar on the discussion itself.

We are all born of the same womb. Whether you srart with Adam, and Eve or, Noah and his wife. We are all made by the hand of God and born of a woman. So whether we recognize it or not we are all brothers and sisters, with slight differences in our DNA.

All that to say I respect your love for your fellow hubeers and once again applaud your invitaton to come together. I don't personally hate or dislike anyone in the hub community. I just voice my Spiritually educated opinion,on where to come together in respcet o religion.

Thanks again for the oppertunity to speak on my beliefs and I look forward to reading many of your future offerings on HubPages.

Jeromeo

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

SirDent is correct. and NO I don't despise or go against him in any way. It is for each of us to search for our own truth. I just give him things to think about and see different aspects of the same thing. We all know God already--He made us all in "Their" image--get that one that is coming--plural for God not one God. We are Gods-so says Jesus and as such we are all part of god--there is no other. The demons are what--diseases--just how many demons do yu see from those who are healed today? The people who wrote the books that we call the Bible are just that---people with no advanced or special knowledge. All is told in what they could percieve--might not be what it is today as in all diseases and famons are medically proven or have obvious course they take and some have cures now that back then they had no idea what it was to begin with.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Jeromeo sayd:

I have only to believe Lady G, has never spoken to one but is going by what she has heard. All I can say is read the Bible it is all right there for whom ever would embrace the TRUTH. One God, One Faith, One Baptism.

Lady G sys, Now how do yu come to that conslusion--just becasue I stated something? I have known JW and have attended their church srevices and I had a bible of theirs as well. So don't assume anything!

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Jeromeo, I didn't not point to anyone in my last comment. I don't understand what upset you. You say you follow God. Good for you and I am glad that you do. But in order to follow God doesn't one have to agree with God first?

Amos 3:3 Can two walk together except they be agreed? I still have no idea why you are upset.

LG, God transcend time and space. Nothing can contain Him but He can make Himself as small ad the head of a pin if He diesried to. What Jesus told the Disciples was what he meant to say. He spoke yes for their understanding, but for ours also. His Word transcends time also. This is God's Word that was used for this article. Not man's word.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

I am sory SirDent I idn't mean that you used man's word--only that the bible was taken apoart by man. I found something that might interest you:

1 Corinthians 2

1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.[a] 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, 5so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.

Wisdom From the Spirit

6We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him"[b]— 10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.[c] 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment: 16"For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?"[d] But we have the mind of Christ.

Footnotes:

1 Corinthians 2:1 Some manuscripts as I proclaimed to you God's mystery 1 Corinthians 2:9 Isaiah 64:4 1 Corinthians 2:13 Or Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to spiritual men 1 Corinthians 2:16 Isaiah 40:13

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

SirDent

If God trensends time and space so do we.

Jesus said Forgive them for they know not what they do--as we are in the physical there is a veil that has been put upon us so that we don't remembe what we came to this life for---so often times we don't know what we do. We love each other--all of us must becasuse one cannot hate his left hand but love his right hand. Jesus said his church was people not a physical wood and cemnt place. Oyr body is the temple that houses the church. We are all part of the church and I don't mean a building either! Peace Be With You. God is within you and me and in everyone of us--there are no choosing which side to be on--that's why Christ died for us--so that we could all be as one....spiritually that is--not physically....Love your neighbor as yourself-----------why you ask--because they are a part of you.....

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Lady Guinevere says:2 hours ago

SirDent

If God trensends time and space so do we.

Jesus said Forgive them for they know not what they do--as we are in the physical there is a veil that has been put upon us so that we don't remembe what we came to this life for---so often times we don't know what we do. We love each other--all of us must becasuse one cannot hate his left hand but love his right hand. Jesus said his church was people not a physical wood and cemnt place. Oyr body is the temple that houses the church. We are all part of the church and I don't mean a building either! Peace Be With You. God is within you and me and in everyone of us--there are no choosing which side to be on--that's why Christ died for us--so that we could all be as one....spiritually that is--not physically....Love your neighbor as yourself-----------why you ask--because they are a part of you.....

SirDent: Because we are in the flesh we cannot transcend time and space. We are limited in our knowledge, power, etc. . . God is spirit and is not limited as we are limited. Not all are of God for many are of their father Satan.

One must confess their sins before Jesus Christ and believe that God raised Him from the dead before they can truly know anything about God. Many believe it is just the physical raising from the dead, but Jesus also died "Spiritually" while on the cross.

Jesus took the sins of the whole world on His back and nailed them to the cross. He was without sin, yet was counted with sinners and transgressors. Because of the sin that He carried on His back, Jesus died a spiritual death.

God raised Jesus from the dead, physically and spiritually dead. Jesus offers salvation to any and all who will simply come and confess their sins before Him. There is no such thing as reincarnation, and I know that is where you were going with your previous comment.

Now let's look at some scriptures.

Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

If you read the whole chapter it will become more clear. This portion is talking about the Word. How it became flesh and dwelt among us. Read the second verse very closely. One must receive Him in order to become a son or daughter of God.

Jeromeo 3 years ago

i am not upset Sir dent and did not say you directred a comment at anyone you have simply misunderstood everythng I have said. And having said all I care to I will excuse myself. except to say to Lady G.

If you knew witnesses and you spoke with them you must have not been paying attention to what was said, other wise you would not make the statements you do so losely about Us. My assumption is based on your atittude, actions and speech.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

I don't think I made any comments about JW's Jeromeo. I have spoken with JW's before. When everyone else hides from them I go out and greet them. Not sure who you think is attacking you or JW's, but everyone has a choice. I haven't denied any comments and I won't as long as I think they are kept as civil as possible.

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Lady Guinevere Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

SorDent. Please post the whole parafraph on those verses.

Jeromeo, Whatever floats your boat!

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Here it is LG. It's a long one.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. Joh 1:7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. Joh 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. Joh 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Joh 1:13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Joh 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Joh 1:19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? Joh 1:20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. Joh 1:21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. Joh 1:22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? Joh 1:23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. Joh 1:24 And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. Joh 1:25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? Joh 1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh 1:27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose. Joh 1:28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing. Joh 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. Joh 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. Joh 1:34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God. Joh 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples; Joh 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God! Joh 1:37 And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus. Joh 1:38 Then Jesus turned, and saw them following, and saith unto them, What seek ye? They said unto him, Rabbi, (which is to say, being interpreted, Master,) where dwellest thou? Joh 1:39 He saith unto them, Come and see. They came and saw where he dwelt, and abode with him that day: for it was about the tenth hour. Joh 1:40 One of the two which heard John speak, and followed him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. Joh 1:41 He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messias, which is, being interpreted, the Christ. Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone. Joh 1:43 The day following Jesus would go forth into Galilee, and findeth Philip, and saith unto him, Follow me. Joh 1:44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter. Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. Joh 1:46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Joh 1:47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile! Joh 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee. Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. Joh 1:50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. Joh 1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Jerome,

I still have friends who are Jehovah's Witnesses and my family actually attended the Kingdom Hall for several years.  The hypocrisy of the group of people that we studied the Bible with was very upsetting.  No where in the Bible does it say celebrating birthdays is not allowed, even though JW's try to say it does. As a child I was not supposed to celebrate Halloween, Christmas, or Easter because all good JW's did so.  I explicitly remember one time when everyone in my Kindergarten class got to watch a Halloween film in the classroom next door, but I had to sit in our classroom alone and read a book about a chicken.  I was not even allowed to have some of the candy because it was Halloween candy and that was not permitted.  I found out years later my family was one of the few who were actually following these rules, while other JW's broke many rules.  The doctrines of the JW's have changed drastically over the years and while they you are Christians, I just do not believe in the doctrines of this group with all due respect.  Interestingly many of the things JW's were not allowed to do when I attended are permitted now. I now believe in non-denominational Christianity because my friend introduced me to a church that emphasized reading the Bible and how all Christians should accept Jesus as their savior. Jerome I know you are a Christian because you believe in Jesus, but I do not believe any one branch of Christianity is better than the other. Ecumenical Christianity is great because it looks past all the diviseness between Christians and tries to get back to the unity Christians should have in belief of Jesus Christ.

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donnaleemason 3 years ago

Awesome Sirdent. I see what you are saying. It requires no analyzing or looking for a hidden meaning. Brilliant hub. Wish I could give it more than one thumb up.

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LdsNana-AskMormon 3 years ago

I must agree with the previous poster... (donna) I do believe you are spot-on with this lovely insight - into our hearts and how it is that God expects us to take the required action, turn to Him and become teachable. It is only then, that we become teachable and are able to make necessary changes to become more like Jesus Christ.

Excellent Hub:-)

tDMg

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novice 3 years ago

Sirdent, what a great hub. Sweetiepie, you rock girlfriend! You are so open and not afraid to dance around what you truly believe. More people should follow your example and openly declare what they mean. Thanks for your insights.

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

Thanks novice. Your insights are pretty good too.

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Rob Jundt Level 4 Commenter 3 years ago

Wow, lots of comments here. All I'd like to add is this. Nice work, excellent teaching, and a lesson for all of us. Jesus will heal us. All we have to do is trust Him, submit to His will, and live under His glory. I know it sounds preachy, but it's all true. Keep spreading the truth.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Donna I appreciate your comment here and especially the encouragment.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Thanks you very much LDS Nana. I appreciate you also very much.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Novice, I appreciate you dropping by also and giving such an encouraging comment.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Sweetie, I agree with novice. You just keep posting and commenting to your heart's content. Don't let anyone bully you around.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Rob, I appreciate your stopping by also. I do have one thing to say to you regarding your comment.

1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the "foolishness of preaching" to save them that believe.

I added the quotations. ;)

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SweetiePie Level 6 Commenter 3 years ago

This such a great hub, so inspiring :).

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

I am glad you are inspired by it SweetiePie. I am currently woking on a new hub that is out of my conmfort zone. I am in chatroom if you want to join me also.

Silly 3 years ago

THIS WAS NICE,,,BUT SOMETIMES ITS HARD TO FORGET OR LET GO IF SOMEONE HAS HURT US OR WE HAVE HURT SOMEONE

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desert blondie 3 years ago

Wonderful to bring to hubpages. Don't think I could compliment you any more sincerely than donnaleemason already has. THUMBS UP!

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Thank you Blondie for the comment and the encouragement. .

mollybonne 3 years ago

So many comments...so little time. I am sorta thinking out loud now. I understand about 'exposing our wounds to Jesus' but how is that gonna help me to get over feelings that have been so hurt by other people? Wouldn't it be better to 'expose our wounds' to the person who caused them? (Try that sometime in a 'christian' chat room. The proverbial football wouldn't get kicked any faster!)

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

Molly, I don't think you understood this article. Peter was the one who cut off the ear of Malchus. Malchus exposed his wound to Jesus, not Peter. You seem to be upset about something from chat. This is the grudges I wrote about in the article. You can hold onto it and become bitter, or you can expose it to Jesus and allow Him access to heal it.

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sixtyorso 3 years ago

Very thought provoking and intersting. I am always intrigued the comments that this type of hub generates. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Language can be interpreted in many ways and even the the bible has been translated from the original languages with different interpretations because of greek and latin root words and ascribed meanings. You need to use the parables and interpret them in your heart.

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SirDent Hub Author 3 years ago

sixtyorso says:7 minutes ago

Very thought provoking and intersting. I am always intrigued the comments that this type of hub generates. "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Language can be interpreted in many ways and even the the bible has been translated from the original languages with different interpretations because of greek and latin root words and ascribed meanings. You need to use the parables and interpret them in your heart.

SirDent: The biggest problems in the church today is due to private interpretations. Each interpretation will be different from one person to the next. The teachings of Jesus cannot be interpreted rightly by an individual person. It is revealed through the Holy Ghost.

I do appreciate your comment, but felt that needed to be said also.

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sixtyorso 3 years ago

Yes entirely true.

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